Just read this [internet article, "Born Again Brainwashing" by Dick Sutphen]. He covers much, doesn't he? And he has a definite opinion on Meditation. Even the vibrato of the voice which is natural bel canto... this may be true for some, but as a musician and vocalist (trained- classical) it seems a bit much.
It is timely (this churchy thing), though, for me to receive this -- as I finally said "yes" to going to a neighbor's church (after her asking 3 times). Knew to do this, then it would fall away... (and it has). There were similar setups in this church as he describes in the article. Just observed and found it boring really. The speaker was talking in a strained, tense, forced voice about all the things you had to do to please God (or "get" there, I suppose) and at least one mention of hell...
I was fortunate to be seated by this huge clear single-paned window (ceiling to floor) looking out at big Blue Sky... so Silent with the white clouds gracefully wisping by...
Awareness Present witnessing the screeching talking heads of human mind.
At 12:30, I excused myself and left.
What do you think about his view on Meditation below? I bolded a bit of it.
"The second thought stopping technique is meditation. If you spend an hour to an hour and a half a day in meditation, after a few weeks, there is a great probability that you will not return to full beta consciousness. You will remain in a fixed state of alpha for as long as you continue to meditate. I'm not saying this is bad -- if you do it yourself. It may be very beneficial. But it is a fact that you are causing your mind to go flat. I've worked with meditators on an EEG machine and the results are conclusive: the more you meditate, the flatter your mind becomes until, eventually and especially if used to excess or in combination with decognition, all thought ceases. Some spiritual groups see this as nirvana -- which is bullshit. It is simply a predictable physiological result. And if heaven on earth is non-thinking and non-involvement, I really question why we are here."
Yes, that is a sort of "numbing" of the mind that is a kind of "tamping down" as it were. It feels pleasant but there is no "rejuvenation," no "aha," no "upliftment" in it. It does "deaden the mind," as that is what is "ATTEMPTED".
That is why "contemplative" meditation is recommended. Or, staying in the stillness while doing stuff is also not "repression". Real, uplifted meditation actually erases the mind tendencies, as the "thoughts" STOP ON THEIR OWN -- rather than repress them to the point of dullness.
I rarely meet people caught in this "numbing process" but have met a few. And when they are finished, they are the same old ones who "went in" in the first place, just duller.
(Also, you are advised to have "short" meditations -- just a few seconds or minutes UNLESS you are in the company of the wise or someone who can "arrest" the mind by uplifting it.)
I will usually sense a prompt to meditate... to sit and be still. Open-eye meditation is occurring consistently. The sitting usually finishes itself in about 20 minutes on average.
Could you describe when you sit specifically to meditate, how that goes? Is contemplative meditation pondering something, a scripture or Truth writing, etc? I can't ponder the whole time... There comes Silence and must listen or just Be. I can't do something mentally constantly... It's heavy for me. That's why I found out a long time ago that Mantra type meditation was not for me.
I do not try to stop thought with any forcing current. Just watch.
Want to check in with you about this, as I said I have that flatness at times... perhaps a void. Like I couldn't think a thought... Or thinking -- what is that? -- like it's a no thing or no one there to think. Maybe this is the Transformation?
Ideas flow naturally for me, so sometimes I wonder if I am becoming dull and lifeless, a blank... I have no interests now really, no inspiration or draw to much... and it feels dead or lost. Totally lost to this world, but I'm still in it and am forced to function here -- which has always been odd for me... to have this body and have to do that. (Since early, around age 3... knew I was not this body or a child and was not interested in child things... dolls, shows, etc. Early on, 4 or so, I would leave others in the house and go out at night and look out into Space... not the stars... I could experience/know my Self best here.)
You say it's all fresh and new, everyday a wonder... and it's not that way for me now. Sometimes it seems I took form here (I recall an initial awareness of "what have I done?" Like, here I am with this baby body and have to be here) and then it was too late. And now I have to see it through.
It often seems like I have done everything there is to do... I have no pull to "do" anything else in the life experience, and feel like I'm waiting for the next thing.
I often think I came just for you.
You ARE waiting for the next thing. While doing that, DO the next thing.
It does feel dead for a while -- that is like a purgatory. But that which is working in you has no time limit -- the burst of newness comes on its own -- we don't "do" that part.
The pondering is taking a scripture like "The selfsame spirit that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead will also quicken your mortal body". And that is like digging a well -- you might get just peace around it, but dig further -- asking just what does this mean?
What does each word mean? DONT "assume" you know. Get the answer fast or slow, inside.